full-disclosure - Re: OT: Firefox question / poll

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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:48:43 -0500
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan@...para.com>
To: coderman <coderman@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, Charles Morris <cmorris@...odu.edu>
Subject: Re: OT: Firefox question / poll

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:00 PM, coderman <coderman@...il.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Charles Morris <cmorris@...odu.edu>
> wrote:
> > I'm curious what everyone's opinion is on the following question...
> > esp. to any FF dev people on list:
> >
> > Do you think that the Firefox "warning: unresponsive script" is meant
> > as a security feature or a usability feature?
>
> anyone who said "security feature" is an idiot and/or not thinking clearly.
> your security is harmed by malicious script in milliseconds.
> this does nothing to protect you from anything.*
>
> it is purely a usability feature in response to shitty developers
> writing shitty webapps leading to excessively long script execution
> (which can thus be terminated if desired once this warning presents)
>
>
> * someone may say "availability is a security requirement!". true, but
> then a modem link to web 2.0 is a DoS, and there's simply no point
> going down that road...
>
> Absolutely correct.  There's effectively an infinite number of temporary
DoS attacks against browsers.  They're fragile enough in this space that
"exploits" are *accidentally* stumbled upon by devs.

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