full-disclosure - Re: when did piracy/theft become expression of freedom

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Message-ID: <CAH-PCH6x8ATrNJ5VDxrM_7SAyhYyrpiCThv9MsDHS0B8_s=qwA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:33:41 +0100
From: Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com>
To: Charles Morris <cmorris@...odu.edu>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	"Zach C." <fxchip@...il.com>, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Subject: Re: when did piracy/theft become expression of
	freedom

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Charles Morris <cmorris@...odu.edu> wrote:

> Dear Valdis and whoever else;
>
> The really ridiculous points are the following:
> A) Every time you execute/install/download a program you are
> committing evil data theft by not only copying
> "secret" or "illegal" information into
> RAM/Disk/Registers/Buffers/Busses/photons coming off the screen/human
> memory/history of the universe but potentially not just your physical
> property but on hundreds of routers and deduplication boxen around the
> earth.
>

which is allowed to you by the copyright holders.


> B) You can't "copyright" or "own" a number, all digital
> representations are numbers, due to the boolean nature (no fuzzy
> data), etc.
>

sadly one can:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_prime


> C) Any data is a form of any other data given a specific transform,
> e.g. manifold / encryption key + algo, something as trivial as XOR
>

and?


> D) You guys already know these points so why do we even care anymore
> about what these people say? Why even have these conversations. They
> will never stop. It's about greed and shortsightedness, not about what
> is moral or logical. Just try to ignore them or change the subject
> when the parrots start talking.
>

you can't ignore them until the law is supporting them.


>
> And to preempt the flames from the blind, Yes I feel artists should be
> compensated for their contribution.


agree

-- 
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

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