full-disclosure - Re: posting xss notifications in sites vs software packages

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Message-ID: <CAGSdRtj9eVTcy9qPJefkcX3vUPFTgdb75+FT_ucVWnwg3f-T_w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 00:05:28 -0500
From: Luis Santana <hacktalkblog@...il.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: posting xss notifications in sites vs
	software packages

Typically if you are in the US, are testing a server in the US owned by a
company headquartered in the US it is legal to find Reflective XSS so long
as you don't crash any services. Crashing any services can be seen as a DoS
attack and then you are screwed. Moreover if you crash a service and cost
the company more than 5k USD then you have a risk of the FBI trying you for
cybercrime.


*I DO NOT CONDONE TESTING SITES YOU DON'T HAVE PERMISSION TO TEST*


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:23 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:30:18 +0100, Info said:
> > A general question: is it legal to search for XSS vulnerabilities on
> > custom websites ?
>
> Yes. No. Maybe. Depends where you live, where the web server is physically
> located, and where the corporate headquarters are.  In the US, the law you
> need to worry about most is 18 USC 1030:
>
>
> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001030----000-.html
>
> "... having knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or
> exceeding
> authorized access, and by means of such conduct having obtained
> information..."
>
> It's going to come down to whether the jury believes the prosecutor's
> version
> or your version of what "exceeding authorized access" means - which is why
> professional pen testers make sure they get a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card,
> and
> negotiate rules of engagement (what's allowed, what's not) as part of the
> contract.  You amature pen testers are on your own. ;)
>
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