full-disclosure - Re: Why are phone internet operators using UK MoD and US DoD IP ranges in their networks?

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Message-ID: <6874.1329794445@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:20:45 -0500
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: "Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)" <andris@...net.ru>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Why are phone internet operators using UK MoD
	and US DoD IP ranges in their networks?

On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:22:04 +0400, "Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)" said:

> > This causes a ton of security issues, why would they do this?
>
> Just because some network admins are lazy and dumb and even don't want
> to read RFC 1918 and other BCPs.

Probably lazy.  Probably *not* dumb.  There was almost certainly a long internal
discussion of the relative costs and risks of deploying multiple 10/8 instances (and
having to deal with collisions between them), and sqatting on an allocated but
unrouted /8 like 7/8, 25/8, 40/8, and similar (and almost certainly *not* having
to deal with collisions).

And remember - this sort of squatting works Just Fine as long as the actual owner
doesn't advertise a route for the address space.  And looking at the historical
looking-glass info at potaroo.net, it appears there's been more public announcements
of address space in 10/8 than there has been for 7/8.  As a result, if you're trying
to build a resilient net, you should use addresses from 7/8 rather than 10/8. :)

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