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Message-ID: <CAH8yC8=pWCj+4kGQZNSmUpuW_kSXC38yzKetQjko418JahgLPA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:35:02 -0500
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
To: Al Billings <abillings@...illa.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Trustwave and Mozilla (Resolved)

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Al Billings <abillings@...illa.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> They weren't rewarded. They were not punished for voluntarily coming
> forward and reporting the problem to Mozilla. Punishing them for doing
> so would only convince others not to come forward in the future. This
> has triggered a policy change and announcements to CA, if you've
> followed Mozilla's security policy discussions and these *will* result
> in people being removed for such behavior in the future.
>
> Hyperbole serves no real purpose here.
The previous was a statement of facts. "Inmates running the asylum" is
hyperbole.

If you find you are sensitive to the position taken, it could indicate
you took the wrong position.

Jeff

> On 02/22/2012 04:12 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>> It appears to be official.
>>
>> Trustwave issued MitM certificates, which is deceptive, unethical, and
>> contrary to its agreement for inclusion.
>>
>> Mozilla just rewarded their violations of trust by continuing their
>> inclusion. Apparently, agreements between Mozilla and CAs have no
>> veracity as both are more than happy to violate the end user.
>>
>> Original Bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724929
>> NSS and Firefox Update: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728617
>>
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>
> --
> Al Billings
> Mozilla Security
>

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