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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:16:45 -0600
From: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: The Mystery of the Duqu Framework

On 3/10/2012 9:00 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote:
> On 03/10/2012 03:51 AM, fd@...erted.net wrote:
>> http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/667/The_Mystery_of_the_Duqu_Framework
>>
>> Haven't seen this (or much discussion around this) here yet, so I
>> figured I'd share.
>  From the description, it looks like someone pushed some code from a 
> Lisp[1] variant (like Common Lisp, which is preprocesed into ANSI C by 
> GCL, for example, before compilation) into a C++ DLL. Normal in the 
> deper end of Linux dev or Hurd communities, but definitely not standard 
> practice in any established industry that makes use of Windows.
>
> I could be wrong, I didn't take the time to walk myself through the 
> decompile with any thoroughness and compare it to code I generate. 
> Anyway, I have no idea the differences between how VC++ and g++ do 
> things -- so my analysis would probably be trash. But from the way the 
> Mr. Soumenkov describes things it seems this, or something similar, 
> could be the case and why the code doesn't conform to what's expected in 
> a C++ binary.
>
> -IY
>
> 1. [Caveat] I say "Lisp" but some other languages come to mind as well; 
> maybe Haskell would come out that way. I'm not sure because I'm most 
> familiar with Lisp and know it can be cobbled with C/C++ without 
> complications because of the way most of its C-based implementations 
> work. Anyway, if I were looking for a lock on how this code was 
> produced, I would ignore C-based languages and focus instead on 
> languages that behave this way natively first, because I think that's 
> the least exotic explanation for the features this segment of code exhibits.
>
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