full-disclosure - Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran

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Message-ID: <4FCFF933.6040809@oneechan.org>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:43:31 -0400
From: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks
 Against Iran

On 6/6/12 6:19 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
> On 6/6/2012 6:08 PM, valdis.kletnieks@...edu wrote:
>> You're a little bit confused here.  It doesn't matter what "people" think. It
>> matters what "the people with more rifles, mortars, tanks, and ammo than you"
>> think.
>>
>> Unless you come up with a way to level the playing field.
> I think you just identified it.  buy rifles (I have, there's a Colt M4 
> Law Enforcement Carbine sitting next to me), but mortars (a bit 
> difficult but not impossible to get) buy tanks (quite easy to get if you 
> know where to look), and buy ammo.  DEMAND that federal firearms laws be 
> revised, and specifically repeals of 18 USC 921-922.  Yet again I point 
> out your VT.edu e-mail and your refusal to listen to Jefferson's 
> warnings.  The man wrote your state constitution.  He wasn't kidding 
> when he did it.
>
> Andrew
>
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I never thought id be agreeing with Andrew , but in this case he is
right, that's what the second amendment was written for.

However my idea is quite a bit less violent.

Stop selling these people 0 days.

Just stop.

I mean everyone here talks about how much of a threat cybercriminals are
and yet some of the people who im sure are on this list are selling
exploits to governments and they do quite a bit more harm than these
kids do.

They have turned the US Gov into the largest script kiddy clans on the net.

Until people inside the industry stop doing that i really dont think
there is any point *in* the infosec field because at this point you all
are not even trying anymore.

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