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Message-ID: <4FD02E73.3040705@oneechan.org>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:30:43 -0400
From: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks
 Against Iran

On 6/7/12 12:05 AM, Ian Hayes wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:
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>> On 6/6/12 11:44 PM, valdis.kletnieks@...edu wrote:
>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:22:32 -0400, Laurelai said:
>>>
>>>> Guys can we focus on the fact that the US Government is en mass
>>>> accessing computer systems without due process, and trying to prosecute
>>>> the people who made this known to the public.
>>> After a decade of unindicted torture of prisoners, renditions, spying
>> on our
>>> own citizens, and killing of our own citizens, and a long list of other
>> stuff,
>>> all without due process, you really think anybody cares about a little
>> illicit
>>> hacking without due process? I'm afraid that ship basically sailed when
>>> Pelosi said impeachment was off the table...
>>>
>> And why arent people in the streets demanding they all step down?
> Such naivety. It's charming. You have much to learn about American apathy.
>
> There were people in the streets. They were marginalized, and made fun
> of, pepper sprayed, called "entitled dirty socialists" and told to get
> a job. As long as people care more about what happens on American Idol
> and whoever Kim Kardashian is divorcing this week, they're not going
> to care one iota about what the government is doing to some country
> that probably had it coming to them in the first place. You want the
> masses out in the streets with the torches and pitchforks, you're
> going to have to overcome decades of being programmed to not care what
> the government does anymore as long as the TV works, there's beer in
> the fridge, and porn is still freely available.
>
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I know about the apathy, i see it every day. I see it a lot in the older
generations. Its the younger generations out there getting maced and
beaten and thrown in jail for standing up for what they think is right.
It sickens me that the average person doesnt care.

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