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Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 00:10:25 +0200
From: Leutnant Steiner <chk.mailbox@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Linux - Indicators of compromise

http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html/

2012/7/18 Григорий Братислава <musntlive@...il.com>

> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:30 AM, alex <fd@...oo.de> wrote:
> > Source MAC faking would result in switchport shutdown in some
> environments.
> > Further you cannot communicate with outside world using broadcasts.
> > ICMP payloads is quite common and hard to detect.
> >
> > Me study CISSP, too. Already CCNA Security. CCNA not worth the money.
> Better get CISA/CISM.
> >
> >
>
> You miss point. If I sent data to broadcast, original poster is say:
> "I will know who you are via MAC address" to which I say: "You is need
> to go back to Cisco bootcamp" Everyone is receive broadcast, no way
> for him to detect who I am since I am is not alone in receiving the
> broadcast. Needle in is haystack.
>
> Second, ICMP tunneling, GRE tunneling is too much trouble. Advanced
> Persistent Threats as defined by (is now give North Korean title to
> him) Super Grand Master of the Internet Universe Richard Bejtlich as
> advanced and is persistent. But is also stupid and lazy. Will not
> waste time on this is vector. Will use SSL and HTTP to is stay under
> radar.
>
> Attacker >>> Own is your data >>> post data in $WBEDIR >>> visit
> $WEBDIR using proxy [small packets]
>
> Is how else can attacker download 867 terabytes of data
> (
> http://www.eddupdate.com/2012/02/cyberthieves-stole-867-terabytes-in-2011.html
> )?
> You believe attackers is using FTP, ICMP, GRE tunnels? No. Too noisy
> is this. Better to visit website like everyone else use proxy of
> another country, this is country take blame.
>
> MusntLive >>> use is never use 213.24.76.77 address >>> use proxy
> 210.75.193.49 >>> download data \
> Supreme Grand Master of Internet Universe >>> analyze >>> see proxy
> >>> chant APT APT APT >>> See I told you is China \
> Fox News >>> report on Chinese threat \
> MusntLive >>> facepalm at report and go back is drink Stoli
>
> CISA/CISM is have nothing on InfoSecInstitute!
>
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