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Message-ID: <CAH8yC8=MMnZa3N7ZuM4tsLPR4eu-e-giXU_7z57k3=vitX-Tnw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:06:56 -0400
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
To: valdis.kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: A modest proposal

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:33 PM,  <valdis.kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 04:01:39 +0200, Bzzz said:
>
>> In this matter, everybody's here knows that threatening these
>> corpos of a full disclosure is the only way to go, because
>> they're like kids that won't grow up and seek the least effort
>> possible & max benefit way - in a word, they're irresponsible.
>
> Actually, at least in the US, the corporations are in fact acting *very*
> responsibly.  Legally, their obligation is *not* to their clients and
> customers, but to their shareholders.    In fact, "spend as little money and
> resources as possible on security without adversely affecting the stock price"
> is what they're pretty much obligated to do.  Now go back and look at how big a
> hit the TJX, Heartland, and Sony PSN pwnages hurt the company's stock prices.
If corporations are people, then they are psychopaths.
http://www.thecorporation.com/ - it was an interesting documentary.

As a side note, the US Supreme Court really f**k'd up the
interpretation of the 14th Amendment - what a bastardization. The
documentary offers some alarming statistics: of the 200 or so cases
surrounding the 14th Amendment, fewer than 20 were brought by African
Americans. The remainder were brought by corporations.

Corporations are evil, and board members need to be liable in both
civil and criminal cases. And no more bribing members of Congress
(err, PAC contributions).

Jeff

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