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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:53:28 -0400
From: Jeffrey Walton <>
To: Security Explorations <>
Subject: Re: [SE-2012-01] information regarding recently
	discovered Java 7 attack

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Security Explorations
<> wrote:
> On 2012-08-29 18:10, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>> Have you reported the issues to US Cert?
> No. Per our Disclosure Policy, we stick to reporting issues to original
> vendors only.
Perhaps its time to update the disclosure policy. It does not seem to
be working as intended. Hindsight being 20/20, it makes sense since it
appears the "foxes are guarding the henhouse." I believe its the
reason for Bugtraq and Full Disclosure.

At minimum, it seems appropriate to include US Cert (or other Cert's)
once a good faith effort has been made to have the vendor fix the
defects. Vendors can string folks like you and I along, but they have
less success with folks like country-wide cert's.

I once used DE Cert to report some issues with GnuPG on Windows.
Interestingly, I was asked to provide funding for the fix even though
I submitted sample code demonstrating the fix. (Crowd sourcing is a
myth - don't drink the Kool-aide).


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