full-disclosure - Re: Microsoft Office Excel 2010 memory corruption

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:31:42 -0400
From: Kelvin White <kelvin.white77@...il.com>
To: noloader@...il.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Excel 2010 memory corruption

is the GNAA he's referring to the same trolls we all know and love?
On Oct 29, 2012 6:02 PM, "Jeffrey Walton" <noloader@...il.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Peter Ferrie <peter.ferrie@...il.com>
> wrote:
> >>> No, it costs a lot of time and money to fix even one issue.
> >>> We don't want to waste it on something that isn't exploitable.
> >> There are at least four problems with this argument. First, the
> >> argument basically says "defective software is OK."
> >
> > You've interpreted "don't want to waste it" as "won't fix it",
> > extended it to suggest that it's an acceptable response, and then
> > proceeded to attack that conclusion.
> > Do you call the fire brigade if you see the smoke from a candle?
> > No, but you might get someone in eventually to clean the soot from the
> ceiling.
> Secure is an immigrant property of the system
> (http://www.mail-archive.com/sc-l@securecoding.org/msg03639.html). How
> can the program be secure if its not even stable?
>
> Worst, its CompSci 101 mistakes - lack of parameter validation and
> failure to check return values - and not some clever attack. To add
> insult to injury, compiler warning, static analysis and dynamic
> analysis will often report the issues but they are not used or
> ignored.
>
> Jeff
>
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