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Message-ID: <CAH8yC8mCuYiuAdh51HJ97qn0ogT+TRuxPdgz0wi-vTbF6w3dWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:08:11 -0500
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
To: Ian Hayes <cthulhucalling@...il.com>
Cc: Full-Disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Student expelled from Montreal college after
 finding vulnerability that compromised security of 250,
 000 students personal data

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Ian Hayes <cthulhucalling@...il.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Philip Whitehouse <philip@...uk.com> wrote:
>>> a class A moron.
>> What does that make Omnivox, which appears to have done no testing?
>
> The two conditions are not mutually exclusive.
Hence the reason for "appears to have done no testing."

Developer driven security is some of the worst security I have seen.
Its the reason for this (and few other) list. Obvious flaws (obvious
to a security professional) tells me Omnivox has problems with their
engineering process (perhaps incomplete testing, perhaps no testing).

Jeff

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