full-disclosure - Re: Deutsche Post Security Cup 2013

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:18:01 +0000 (GMT)
From: Hurgel Bumpf <l0rd_lunatic@...oo.com>
To: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Deutsche Post Security Cup 2013

if you have a look at the jury, you see some guy from Computer Bild. This is a magazine for the broad mass and the everyday computer user (who is impressed by registry tricks and free software)..

Computer Bild is not that known for very in-depth security knowledge. I mean, if you have a sophisticated security question, Computer Bild is like the last place to look for. 

If they had at least choosen someone from Heise Security or Chaos Computer Club (i don't like their attitude but they have some competent members). These two are known for dealing with security every day. 

So then why Computer Bild ?

Computer Bild is a part of the Springer press, which is the most powerful publishing company here in Germany. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Springer_AG

If they write "it's good", everybody will believe that. And they have a lot of mediums to propagate that information in "the right way", even if they are wrong ( Nice German site publishing all errors by Bild http://www.bildblog.de/ ;-) 

I really don't want to presume something but it's somehow obvious.

Coman the Intensivecareian




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 Von: Alex <fd@...oo.de>
An: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk 
Gesendet: 18:46 Donnerstag, 21.März 2013
Betreff: Re: [Full-disclosure] Deutsche Post Security Cup 2013
 

IMHO the goal here is not to find many vulns, it is to find none and therefore "prove" that the product is secure. The E-POST product is highly questioned in Germany, because it is sold as secure encrypted email service, although the security is only between server and client. The server unencrypts the mail and virus checks it or whatever else. I think I don't need to comment any further, just corelate those two facts.
Alexander Georgiev
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:34:36 +0000 (GMT), Hurgel Bumpf <l0rd_lunatic@...oo.com> wrote:
Most of the subscribers are single individuals. Why bother sending them a invitaton when 99.9% are rejected because they dont have a "company" or a "big team". There a lot of valuable and competent individuals out there which are rejected because of their team size in the first place. Don't be so closed-minded, most freaks dont have friends and/or a cr3w. 
> 
>Thanks
> 
>Bonan the bavarian
>Von: "Juergen.Pabel@...tschePost.de" 
>An: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk 
>Gesendet: 10:24 Mittwoch, 20.März 2013
>Betreff: [Full-disclosure] Deutsche Post Security Cup 2013
>
>
>Dear  all,
>  
>as in 2010 (http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Sep/318)  we will be conducting the Deutsche Post Security Cup this year again. 
>  
>Unfortunately, this  year only participants from Germany are allowed to the contest (because of legal  complications if international participants would be allowed to participate). I  understand that most of you on this list will thus not be able to participate,  but due to the lack of an equivalent german mailing list I opted for posting  this here as most german security researchers are also subscribers of this  list.
>  
>More information  about and the registration form (registration deadline is March 31st) for the  Security Cup 2013 can be found at http://www.epost.de/securitycup (in  german only, sorry).
> 
>Regards,
>Jürgen  Pabel
>
>Jürgen Pabel
>Information Security Officer E-POSTBRIEF
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>Deutsche Post AG
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