full-disclosure - Re: VUPEN Security Research - Adobe Flash Player RTMP Data Processing Object Confusion (CVE-2013-2555)

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Message-ID: <CAEJizbZW9A4jPvEvbZSD+3mLxtpp0gH2-4oUhoeVmCZJeRAtWw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 23:06:33 +0100
From: Benji <me@...ji.com>
To: Bryan <bryan@...wildhats.com>
Cc: Full-Disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: VUPEN Security Research - Adobe Flash Player
 RTMP Data Processing Object Confusion (CVE-2013-2555)

Let me expand on that, otherwise I'm sure it's unclear.

Is your suggestion, to remove the worry of developers making mistakes, to
add another human process after it and rely on this to remove all mistakes?


On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Benji <me@...ji.com> wrote:

> Yes, after the people that can make mistakes, we should have people that
> are incapable of making mistakes. I totally agree, what a good idea.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Bryan <bryan@...wildhats.com> wrote:
>
>> The code monkeys can make mistakes as long as there is a process to
>> detect and remedy their mistakes before things get shipped. Hiring
>> decent application security researchers to audit their code would be a
>> good start.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 09:51:40AM -0400, Lee wrote:
>> > On 4/20/13, Sergio Alvarez <shadown@...il.com> wrote:
>> > > Why instead of discussing about ethics about 0days, don't you discuss
>> about
>> > > responsible DEVELOPMENT instead?
>> > > If products where properly designed and developed there wouldn't be
>> 0days
>> > > for them, would them?
>> >
>> > Only if the designers & developers were perfect and never made mistakes.
>>
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