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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:41:17 +0200
From: Sergio Alvarez <shadown@...il.com>
To: Mario Alejandro Vilas Jerez <mvilas@...il.com>
Cc: 201304192026.r3JKQBBT012345@...o.maths.usyd.edu.au,
 full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, Joxean Koret <joxeankoret@...oo.es>,
 paul.szabo@...ney.edu.au
Subject: Re: VUPEN Security Research - Adobe Flash Player
 RTMP Data Processing Object Confusion (CVE-2013-2555)

Why instead of discussing about ethics about 0days, don't you discuss about
responsible DEVELOPMENT instead?
If products where properly designed and developed there wouldn't be 0days
for them, would them?

- sergio
On Apr 20, 2013 2:17 PM, "Mario Vilas" <mvilas@...il.com> wrote:

> I was suddenly reminded of this...
>
> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qicaz/
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Joxean Koret <joxeankoret@...oo.es>
> wrote:
> > Oh, no, please not again. Are we going to talk one more fucking time
> > about the ethics of 0-days? Please no.
> >
> >> Is a delay of a year before reporting to the vendor, acceptable?
> >>
> >> Thanks, Paul
> >>
> >> Paul Szabo   psz@...hs.usyd.edu.au
> >> http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/
> >> School of Mathematics and Statistics   University of Sydney
> >> Australia
> >
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