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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:21:55 -0400
From: Gary Baribault <gary@...ibault.net>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: 0day Vulnerability in VLC (this is my first
 release of the vuln anywhere)

And oh so easy. Most of us know Georgi, but I do think it's unfair to
label all software firms as Terrorists. That term is used much too
easily these days IMHO. Sure some of them don't like to work with us,
but it has been my experience that most will, and if they don't, like
Valdis says, go from pale grey ball cap to darker grey, and to heck with
them, but at least you will have tried!

Gary Baribault
Courriel: gary@...ibault.net
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On 04/23/2013 12:13 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:51:55 +0300, Georgi Guninski said:
>> Completely disagree.
>>
>> IMHO nobody should bother negotiating with terrorist vendors.
>>
>> Q: What responsibility vendors have?
>> A: Zero. Check their disclaimers.
> And disclaimer or no disclaimer, there's a lot of vendors who want to
> Do The Right Thing and fix their stuff to protect their users (if for
> no other reason than the possibility of lost customers if they ignore
> security issues too often).
>
> If you're a black hat, do whatever the heck you want.
>
> If you're a white hat, be responsible and at least try to engage the
> vendor.  If you're worried about being stiffed for the credit for the
> find, write the advisory and post the MD5 hash somewhere before contacting
> the vendor.  If they respond and work on the problem, the process works.
> If they blow you off, go blackhat and do whatever the heck you want. :)
>
> Now wasn't that easy? :)
>
>
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