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Message-ID: <mpro.mlpwrk02xpxw006xj.taviso@cmpxchg8b.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:04:32 -0700
From: Tavis Ormandy <taviso@...xchg8b.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: 0day Vulnerability in VLC (this is my first
	release of the vuln anywhere)

Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:22:36 -0700, Tavis Ormandy said:
> 
> > Easy and nonsense, I really hope you don't think this is about credit.
> 
> I mention the credit issue only because some people *have* gotten peeved
> when they contact a vendor and the vendor issues an advisory that doesn't
> give them a shout-out.  So for at least *some* researchers, the lack of
> vendor notification *is* about the credits.
> 

Sure, but how does full disclosure solve that? Most vendors refuse to credit
researchers who don't play by their rules (which is almost universally tell
them and then keep quiet until they give you permission to speak) - so if
you're primarily driven by vendor credit, you should not choose full
disclosure.

Trivializing full disclosure as something people do for "shout outs" then
calling it "blackhat" is unfair and inaccurate, but we're used to this from
the Scott Culpists ;-) 


Tavis.

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