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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:19:14 +0100
From: Philip Whitehouse <>
To: Justin Ferguson <>
Cc: full-disclosure <>
Subject: Re: Why PRISM kills the cloud | Computerworld

The problem is we seem to have neither agents with a conscience or legislation difficult to change for the spooks and their puppets.

So even if we did have functioning privacy organisations willing to take on the government (Hacked Off being a notable exception but even that was primarily motivated by celebrity involvement) we'd have no real chance of winning.

It comes to something when the best we are ever going to see in the UK is a minister in the dock for lying to parliament (unlikely in any case due to doublespeak).

Philip Whitehouse

On 12 Jun 2013, at 00:10, Justin Ferguson <> wrote:

> A Canadian and what appears to be a British subject discussing the not
> so finer points of American legislation. I'm sure at some point the
> irony will become apparent.
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Philip Whitehouse <> wrote:
>> Seems like some people spend way to much time focusing on the second
>> amendment rather than the first one...
>> Well this relates mainly to the fourth amendment, not the first. The first
>> tends to get decent coverage. Publication of the leak by journalists is the
>> only under the realm of the first.
>> Philip Whitehouse
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