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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:26:29 +0200
From: Zenny <garbytrash@...il.com>
To: Philip Whitehouse <philip@...uk.com>
Cc: full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Why PRISM kills the cloud | Computerworld
	Blogs

This has been came into public attendtion recently, but it has been
published earlier in March 2013 by Bruce Schneider (the twofish crypto
algo developer).

Read here:
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/03/fbi_secretly_sp.html



On 6/12/13, Philip Whitehouse <philip@...uk.com> wrote:
> The problem is we seem to have neither agents with a conscience or
> legislation difficult to change for the spooks and their puppets.
>
> So even if we did have functioning privacy organisations willing to take on
> the government (Hacked Off being a notable exception but even that was
> primarily motivated by celebrity involvement) we'd have no real chance of
> winning.
>
> It comes to something when the best we are ever going to see in the UK is a
> minister in the dock for lying to parliament (unlikely in any case due to
> doublespeak).
>
> Philip Whitehouse
>
> On 12 Jun 2013, at 00:10, Justin Ferguson <jf@...co.net> wrote:
>
>> A Canadian and what appears to be a British subject discussing the not
>> so finer points of American legislation. I'm sure at some point the
>> irony will become apparent.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Philip Whitehouse <philip@...uk.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Seems like some people spend way to much time focusing on the second
>>> amendment rather than the first one...
>>>
>>> Well this relates mainly to the fourth amendment, not the first. The
>>> first
>>> tends to get decent coverage. Publication of the leak by journalists is
>>> the
>>> only under the realm of the first.
>>>
>>> Philip Whitehouse
>>>
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