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Message-ID: <20130704072102.GA2627@sivokote.iziade.m$>
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:21:02 +0300
From: Georgi Guninski <guninski@...inski.com>
To: coderman <coderman@...il.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: tor vulnerabilities?

I am not an expert on tor.

Last time I started tor on console and watched stdout/stderr
saw so many warnings/errors wondered it worked at all
(had dropped connections IIRC)...

re: short lived bugs: they are short lived when dead,
not while alive ;)

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 11:04:45AM -0700, coderman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Georgi Guninski <guninski@...inski.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > I see no reason to trust tor.
> >
> > How do you disprove that at least (say) 42% of the tor network
> > is malicious, trying to deanonymize everyone and logging
> > everything?
> 
> end to end privacy is orthogonal to anonymity, however, exit nodes
> imply risks most users aren't familiar with or accustomed to.  does
> this mean Tor is useless?
>   No - but it must be used with care, certainly.
> 
> 
> > Or maybe some obscure feature deanonymize in O(1) :)
> 
> these bugs are short lived but do happen from time to time...  my
> favorite will always be CVE-2007-4174  *grin*
> 
> 
> next generation low latency anonymity networks are a fun area of
> research and suited to interesting attacks. you could help build and
> break them when you're sufficiently sated with vague criticisms.

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