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Message-Id: <A316916E-E160-47C4-9BF3-07476E20112A@grsee.co.il>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:28:57 +0300
From: Moshe Israel <moshe.israel@...ee.co.il>
To: "Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Abusing Windows 7 Recovery Process

And dont forget the logs/audits etc...

On Jul 14, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Moshe Israel <moshe.israel@...ee.co.il> wrote:

> My response was to "how many system implement such controls".
> 
> You could however (since u have access) disconnect the network cable, replace magnify wt cmd etc. add admin, replace the cmd back and reconnect.
> Solved?? :)
> 
> On Jul 13, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:13:38 +0300, Moshe Israel said:
>>> All secured/regulated systems as required by most certifications/standards/best practices.
>> 
>> You're new in the industry, aren't you? :)
>> 
>> The point you're missing is that the vast majority of computers aren't covered
>> by said certifications and standards.  And most of the certifications are
>> merely a money grab by the auditors - the last numbers I found, something like
>> 98% of breaches of systems that were covered by PCI were of systems that at
>> the time of the breach were PCI-compliant.  In  other words, being PCI compliant
>> didn't actually slow the attackers down one bit.
>> 
>> You social engineer your way into the 5th office building you pass, pick a
>> random PC on the 4th floor - I'll bet you that PC is probably *not* running
>> sufficient monitoring to detect an intruder rebooting it and messing with
>> the system.

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