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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:36:39 -0300
From: "Marcio B. Jr." <>
To: coderman <>
Cc: full-disclosure <>
Subject: Re: Internet has vuln.

Another bourgeois genius crying like a baby for his private interests
are being harmed.

Marcio Barbado, Jr.

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:34 AM, coderman <> wrote:
> '''
> The NSA has undermined a fundamental social contract. We engineers
> built the internet – and now we have to fix it...
> By subverting the internet at every level to make it a vast,
> multi-layered and robust surveillance platform, the NSA has undermined
> a fundamental social contract. The companies that build and manage our
> internet infrastructure, the companies that create and sell us our
> hardware and software, or the companies that host our data: we can no
> longer trust them to be ethical internet stewards.
> This is not the internet the world needs, or the internet its creators
> envisioned. We need to take it back.
> And by we, I mean the engineering community...
> One, we should expose. If you do not have a security clearance, and if
> you have not received a National Security Letter, you are not bound by
> a federal confidentially requirements or a gag order. If you have been
> contacted by the NSA to subvert a product or protocol, you need to
> come forward with your story... If you work with classified data and
> are truly brave, expose what you know. We need whistleblowers....
> Two, we can design. We need to figure out how to re-engineer the
> internet to prevent this kind of wholesale spying. We need new
> techniques to prevent communications intermediaries from leaking
> private information.
> We can make surveillance expensive again. In particular, we need open
> protocols, open implementations, open systems...
> Generations from now, when people look back on these early decades of
> the internet, I hope they will not be disappointed in us. We can
> ensure that they don't only if each of us makes this a priority, and
> engages in the debate. We have a moral duty to do this, and we have no
> time to lose.
> Dismantling the surveillance state won't be easy. Has any country that
> engaged in mass surveillance of its own citizens voluntarily given up
> that capability? Has any mass surveillance country avoided becoming
> totalitarian? Whatever happens, we're going to be breaking new ground.
> '''
>  - Bruce Schneier
> note from the editor: i'll believe we have made progress toward robust
> crypto once every personal computing device has a robust hardware
> entropy source.
>  (backdoor generators like RDRAND don't count, of course ;)
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