full-disclosure - Re: Handling bad ISP's

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Message-ID: <CANzJs7nTZ7ErdZKWH4-kDVL4_hj7dDyQDftSAGTOS73YCttbdw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:42:55 +0200
From: Gregory Boddin <gregory@...hine.net>
To: coderman <coderman@...il.com>
Cc: Full Disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Handling bad ISP's

Some will say it's best to let them go down by themselves (they will
probably be blacklisted if it's the attack rate from their network is
growing and they don't care about it).

For eg: OVH, an French ISP is getting blacklisted by some mailing providers
because of the spam rate coming from their network.

Well, they started taking measure by punishing customers that do it and
they deployed solutions to watch the problem.

It's an old story ... Who's accountable ? The network owner or the hacked
server ?

My point of view is : if you own a network, you have to watch out that your
users are not using it to take down other networks / servers.

If your customer want to screw the Internet or cannot secure its stuff,
they should get their own AS.

On 23 October 2013 23:58, coderman <coderman@...il.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:05 PM,  <silence_is_best@...hmail.com> wrote:
> > What's the deal with plusserver.de and ecatel.net?  I get scanned
> constantly
> > from these netblocks..
>
>
> you say this like getting scanned is a problem.
>
> if getting scanned is a problem for you,
>   the internets are a problem for you!
>
>
>
> translation: bitching like this means you're doing it wrong...
>
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