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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 22:42:42 +0000
From: Daniel Llewellyn <diddledan@...il.com>
To: Daniël W. Crompton <daniel.crompton@...il.com>
Cc: cpunks <cypherpunks@...nks.org>,
 Full Disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
 Cypherpunks list <cypherpunks@...qaeda.net>,
 Discussion of cryptography and related <cryptography@...dombit.net>
Subject: Re: [cryptography] coderman's keys

I also forgot to mention that the ciphertext also includes the readable
words "IF", "THEN", "RUN", "you" (next to tip) and "URDAD" besides those I
already mentioned.


On 3 November 2013 22:33, Daniel Llewellyn <diddledan@...il.com> wrote:

> the quote is from a savant called "Daniel Tammet":
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Tammet
>
> the clue is to count primes, not just count. I got as far as spotting that
> the ciphertext has the words "clue" and "tip" where clude is at character
> locations 11, 12, 13 and 14 - 11 is a prime. I gave up after reconstructing
> what looked like a base64 encoded string by counting all the primes from
> teh first 1000 prime number set starting from the prime "3" because the
> number 3 is located very close to the word tip and happens to be a
> prime-numbered distance from the word "clue". I also reconstructed a
> hexadecimal value "AAD50AD65B52324ECB602D12FA2477F" by stripping all
> non-hex characters from the base64 string that I reconstructed
> "sdkR/VHfGppgptLSRJsyyRSoxxOIxUoabuGpqTJQr+xayphMtkZYkq+rWcJOoazSgRywtj=XridRKPbppycgyxOvIjwIiSGkwwgSGeUUOKOcZqsKJMwN".
>
> I don't know if any of that is the correct way of approaching the problem
> because I'm not a security expert. (I monitor this list for early warnings
> of potential issues with softwares that I run rather than because I'm
> clever.) If I'm on the right track maybe someone else can get further and
> win the ~$200, but it isn't going to come my way, unfortunately, as like I
> said above I've given up (I feel like I'm close though).
>
>
> On 3 November 2013 20:19, Daniël W. Crompton <daniel.crompton@...il.com>wrote:
>
>> As the text looked like a riddle my first guess was that it was a clue to
>> "just count" which to me sounded like a Caeser or Vigenère cipher with the
>> date being the key and the quote the obfuscated address. Giving the factors
>> for generating the keys does sound more logical.
>>
>>
>> 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234
>> born on January 31 1979 .. all prime numbers .. I would sit on the floor
>> in my bedroom and just count.
>>
>> D.
>>
>>
>> On 3 November 2013 05:53, Pedro Worcel <pedro@...cel.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When you import the public key it says this:
>>>
>>> hidden@....onion ("born on January 31 1979 .. all prime numbers .. I
>>> would sit on the floor in my bedroom and just count.")
>>>
>>> My guess is that you need those three primes (1 31 1979?) you can
>>> somehow generate the public key for the hidden service where the mail
>>> address is. I tried to determine how onion addresses are generated but
>>> unfortunately I am a noob and I couldn't do it.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/11/2 Jeffrey Goldberg <jeffrey@...dmark.org>
>>>
>>>> On 2013-10-31, at 11:11 PM, coderman <coderman@...il.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 7:55 PM, coderman <coderman@...il.com> wrote:
>>>> >> my contempt for email is well known and reinforced by choice of
>>>> provider.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> there are myriad rebuttals to email as private channel, of which i
>>>> >> agree fully.  however, if you pass muster, i can be reached via
>>>> secure
>>>> >> email.  yes your default client will balk.  this is a feature not a
>>>> >> bug...  "you must be this high to ride..."
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > still no successful encrypted responses.
>>>>
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
>>>> Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org
>>>>
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>>>> 1Psu3NE=
>>>> =ENte
>>>> -----END PGP MESSAGE-----
>>>>
>>>> > let's try an experiment: one bitcoin (~200$USD) to whoever
>>>> > successfully encrypts a message to my key.
>>>>
>>>> That’s a serious sweetener. So I assume that I have misunderstood
>>>> something about this challenge.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> blaze your trail
>>
>> --
>> Daniël W. Crompton <daniel.crompton@...il.com>
>>
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