full-disclosure - Re: EE BrightBox router hacked

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Message-ID: <47328.1389894510@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 12:48:30 -0500
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: Dan Ballance <tzewang.dorje@...il.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: EE BrightBox router hacked - bares all if you
	ask nicely

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:52:37 +0000, Dan Ballance said:

> Well users do care about getting hacked when it happens - so maybe they do
> need to be forced to pay a little more to be secure. This also has benefits
> for e-commerce and on-line banking, credit card fraud etc

Actually, the entire credit card industry is build around the assumption
that there *will* be 4-5% fraudulent transactions, and it's not cost-effective
to try to reduce fraud any further (though it *is* usually worth it if
there's a new spike of a fraud variant that is fairly easily dealt with)...

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