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Message-ID: <CAH8yC8mB+DBd1U26oeB-JkY-jHz8jrbHn-ZUUprVggrBdMyWfA@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 13:02:32 -0500 From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com> To: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk> Subject: Re: EE BrightBox router hacked - bares all if you ask nicely On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:44 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:30:18 +0000, Dan Ballance said: > >> So your point is that there should be legislation to require companies to >> adhere to certain security standards? I'd support that - particularly in an >> ISP market which is clearly defined by national boundaries and law. > > OK.. What standard do you want to hoist as a legal mandate? No standards are needed. Attach a nominal dollar amount to the data. That will unbalance the risk equations and the industry will act on its own. For example, if it takes 2 hours to reset to all your passwords (password reuse is rampant), then allow a consumer to recover $250 for their time. If PII is lost allow them damages of 7 years of credit reporting (about $150) plus actual damages from any loss. Hell, I had to overnight a credit card last summer while on business that was cancelled due to a breach. That cost me $75.00. Perhaps triple damages are in order, too. > Bonus points for finding a standard that provides enough *actual* security > that it is worth doing... +1 > ... but yet won't bankrupt the industry. Computing is a privilege, not a right. Should Sony continue to be allowed to compute when they suffered at least 50 incidents, including dataloss (http://attrition.org/security/rants/sony_aka_sownage.html)? Hell, Sony suffered 7 different incidents in one month (http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201121/7185/Seven-security-incidents-in-two-months-Sony-s-nightmare-grows). How much time an aggravation have they caused to institutions and consumers? That's driving drunk on the information superhighway. Jeff _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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