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Message-ID: <CABAEwV_QmxAgu0hDsW-a6N0WxTX+8=ZZKfwz4uQpjd3dXp+Y4g@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:15:11 +0100
From: Krzysztof Kotowicz <kkotowicz+fd@...il.com>
To: "Nicholas Lemonias." <lem.nikolas@...glemail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: Google vulnerabilities with PoC

Care to report the same to Dropbox and Pastebin? It's a gold mine, you
know...


2014-03-14 20:09 GMT+01:00 Nicholas Lemonias. <lem.nikolas@...glemail.com>:

> You are wrong, because we do have proof of concepts. If we didn't have
> them, then there would be no case.
>
> But if there are video clips, images demonstrating impact - in which case
> arbitrary file uploads (which is a write() call ) to a remote network, then
> it is a vulnerability. It is not about the bounty, but rather about not
> defying academic literature and widely recognised practise.
>
> Attacking the arguer, won't make the bug to go away.
>
> Best,
>
> Nicholas.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Krzysztof Kotowicz <
> kkotowicz+fd@...il.com> wrote:
>
>> Nicholas, seriously, just stop.
>>
>> You have found an 'arbitrary file upload' in a file hosting service and
>> claim it is a serious vulnerability. With no proof that your 'arbitrary
>> file' is being used anywhere in any context that would lead to code
>> execution - on server or client side. You cite OWASP documents (which are
>> unrelated to the case), academia papers from 1975 just to find a reason
>> it's theoretically serious, not paying any attention to what service you're
>> actually attacking and what have you really achieved in that (which is
>> demonstrating a filtering weakness at best, low risk).
>>
>> Everyone on this list so far explains why you're wrong, but you just
>> won't stop. So you start throwing out certificates, your academia
>> experience and your respected company. Then - name calling everyone else.
>> Seriously, it's just a good laugh for most of us.
>>
>> Dude, please, just because you did not qualify for a bounty, there's no
>> point in launching a whole campaign like you are. You're essentially
>> following the path of Khalil Shreateh (the guy who posted on Zuckerberg FB
>> wall) - he DID find a vuln though. Do you really want that? Go ahead, start
>> a crowdsourcing campaign!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-14 19:40 GMT+01:00 Nicholas Lemonias. <lem.nikolas@...glemail.com
>> >:
>>
>>> We have many PoC's including video clips. We may upload for the security
>>> world to see.
>>>
>>> However, this is not the way to treat security vulnerabilities.
>>> Attacking the researcher and bringing you friends to do aswell, won't
>>> mitigate the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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