full-disclosure - Re: [FD] Beginners error: Hewlett-Packards driver software executes rogue binary C:\Program.exe

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Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 20:21:06 +0200
From: Reindl Harald <h.reindl@...lounge.net>
To: "fulldisclosure@...lists.org" <fulldisclosure@...lists.org>
Subject: Re: [FD] Beginners error: Hewlett-Packards driver software executes
 rogue binary C:\Program.exe


Am 21.05.2014 20:12, schrieb Michal Zalewski:
>> the existence of "C:\Program.exe" must not have any bad affect
>> for any random installer not intending to execute this
> 
> Sounds like a good goal. The installer probably also shouldn't play
> obscene messages via PC speaker. If it did, it would be undesirable
> and probably considered a bug
> 
> Now, in practical terms... in absence of a plausible risk / attack
> vector, it doesn't sound like much of a security issue (unless you
> adopt the approach advocated on the predecessor of this list by Mr.
> Lemonias)

and *that* attitude is the root cause for all the software crap around

* anobody knows that unverified input is bad
* anybody knows that unescaped input is bad

so why the fuck discuss in the way "show me the attack vector"
instead a) learn from the existing bad code to write better and
just accept that *it is* a security relevant bug

90 out of 100 security flaws in the past years where from the
category "hy should i bother about this and that, it is unlikely"


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