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Date:	Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:46:46 -0400
From:	Theodore Tso <>
To:	Andreas Dilger <>
Cc:	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <>,
	Girish Shilamkar <>,
	Ext4 Mailing List <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] e2fsprogs: Dump extent/sindices using debugfs

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:32:04AM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > 
> > lib/ext2fs/tst_extents (I don't know why we don't install this by
> > default) have inode, root and ns/n command which help to iterate the
> > extent format inode

Some of the reasons why tst_extents was created to extend debugfs,
instead of simply adding these commands to debugfs are:

1) To demonstrate the technique for creating programs for doing
per-module testing various new bits of the libext2 library, without
having to replicate a lot of infrastructure already provided by
debugfs.  (Code reuse is good; lots of testing of *any* code before
you submit it, in either e2fsprogs or the ext4 kernel code is a very
good thing; one of the thing that disturbs me a little is when I trip
over bugs that indicate that obviously the code was obviously NOT
tested before submission, such as the on-line resizing code or patches
to the on-line resizing code, when online resizing was clearly and
obviously busted.)

2) The command names, "inode", "root", "next_sibling", etc. are
clearly inappropriate for debugfs. 

> The "tst_*" programs are purely for regression testing.  Having this
> functionality built into a proper tool like debugfs is needed.

Agreed.  That being siad, Girish's patch doesn't apply against the
latest e2fsprogs git repository.  It uses ext2fs_read_ext_block(), and
one of the reasons why I objected to Clusterfs's extent support in
e2fsprogs is that it exposed the low-level extent format to userspace
(and meant that the swapfs.c also needed extreme intimate knowledge of
the extent tree format), and that's a bad idea if we ever want to
change the extent format in the future.  So the extents abstraction in
the latest e2fsprogs git tree does not have ext2fs_read_ext_block().

So to properly add the desired features to debugfs would require
taking some of the code from tst_extents (really, lib/ext2fs/extents.c
in the #ifdef DEBUG section), and moving it into debugfs.

I doubt we would want to move all of the tst_extents functionality
into debugfs, though.  Probably just enough to dump the extent tree
and the set_bmap functionality --- and the latter should be done by
extending debugfs.c:do_bmap() so that it can take an optional 3rd
argument which utilizes ext2fs_bmap() to set a logical block mapping;
that way do_bmap() will work with normal and extent-based files, since
ext2fs_bmap/ext2fs_bmap2 have been wired to use Eric's
ext2fs_extent_set_bmap() function automatically for extents-based


						- Ted
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