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Message-Id: <1240229714.6469.33.camel@marge.simson.net>
Date:	Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:15:14 +0200
From:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
Cc:	Amit Shah <amit.shah@...hat.com>, Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Developers List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add ext3 data=guarded mode

On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 11:26 +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Mon 20-04-09 11:07:17, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > All journal modes seem subject to bad throughput under heavy pressure,
> > though data=ordered seems much less likely to suffer for some reason.
> > Major difference _seems_ to be that write()+largefile induces very much
> > swap activity.

>   My rough guess is that this depends on the VM writeout behavior. In
> ordered mode, we forcibly writeout all the dirty data on a transaction
> commit which happens every 5 seconds so they don't accumulate that much.

Aha.

> In other journaling modes we don't do that and decisions about writeout
> (probably how much pdflush manages to write in background vs. how much
> VM throttles the process to do the writeback itself) cause variances in
> the run time. But this is just a guess. You could gather blktraces of
> slow and fast runs and then look if the amount of IO done by different
> processes significantly differs. If Chris has merged by improvements to
> Seekwatcher, then you could nicely visualize this (hmm, that doesn't seem
> to be the case so I'm attaching the diff and a helper script - see comments
> in the beginning of the script and command helps for usage).

Not necessary methinks.  Actually _reading_ the proggy instead of just
glancing at it...

@@ -178,7 +178,7 @@ int do_write_chunks(char *target, int *f
        unsigned long long remain = len;
        char *zeros;

-       zeros = calloc(1, len);
+       zeros = calloc(1, data);

I assume that was a booboo. 

	-Mike

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