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Date:	Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:03:14 +0530
From:	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>
Cc:	cmm@...ibm.com, sandeen@...hat.com, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -V2] ext4: Drop mapped buffer_head check during
	page_mkwrite

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:24:48AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:00:06PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> > Below are the possibilities i looked at
> > 
> > a) mmap with no parallel write to the same offset. That would mean
> > we don't have attached buffer heads because nobody attach buffer
> > heads to the page.
> > 
> > b) mmap happening to the hole. The buffer heads are not mapped.
> > 
> > c) mmap with parallel write to the same offset. The parallel write
> > did attach mapped buffer heads to the same page. So we should find
> > all buffer heads mapped in the above case. 
> > 
> > if we will find buffer heads already be mapped in many workloads then
> > i guess it make sense to add page lock. It will also avoid the
> > journal_start that we do in write_begin. I will redo the patch
> 
> The usage case I was worried about is the one where we are mmap'ing an
> existing file (say, like an Oracle or DB2 table space, or a berkdb
> database file), and we are writing into already allocated blocks.  In
> that case (which does use these code paths, right?) the second time we
> write a particular page, the buffer heads will already be mapped.

If the database is not being updated via a write(2), then even though
the blocks are already allocated, we won't find buffer_heads attached to the page.

ie, page_buffers(page) will be NULL

The page_mkwrite -> write_begin  path would be allocating the buffer_heads
and attaching them to the page. So even in the above case we will be
doing write_begin -> write_end. That is, it is similar to the (a) i wrote
above.


> 
> For database applications where we aren't loading a table, but just
> making changes to an already instantiated table, the buffer heads
> would be mapped most of the time, would they not?
> 
> 					- Ted

-aneesh
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