linux-ext4 - Re: [PATCH 3/5] ext4: Implement project ID support for ext4 filesystem

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Message-ID: <20100312200728.GA13448@fieldses.org>
Date:	Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:07:29 -0500
From:	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>
To:	Dmitry Monakhov <dmonakhov@...nvz.org>
Cc:	tytso@....edu, Andreas Dilger <adilger@....com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] ext4: Implement project ID support for ext4
	filesystem

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:32:09PM +0300, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> tytso@....edu writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:54:46PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> >> A second possibility (if there is really no desire to have more than
> >> a single project ID per inode) is to add a field to the "large"
> >> inode for ext4, though that doesn't help filesystems that were not
> >> formatted that way, and it also consumes space in all inodes even if
> >> this feature is not used.
> >
> > The big question that I'm still uncertain about is how often are
> > people going to be using this feature, and how many project ID's do we
> > really need?  I know Dimitry believes this is going to be the greatest
> > thing since sliced bread, but even for people running virtualization,
> > I'm not sure how many folks really will consider it critical.
> Most of our customers (hosting providers) use quota, otherwise
> it is impossible to restrict disk usage. Currently they have to
> perform full quotecheck after power failure. Which result in huge
> service down time. If we able to use journalled quota all problems
> will be solved.
> Also NFS people was interesting in projectid feature. They want to
> use it for creating safe file-handles.
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=126634832431306&w=2

By the way, have you looked at all at what it would take to be able to
encode and decode filehandles with projectid's in them?

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