linux-ext4 - Re: [RFC v3] ext4: Combine barrier requests coming from fsync

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Message-Id: <4D5AEB7F-32E2-481A-A6C8-7E7E0BD3CE98@dilger.ca>
Date:	Mon, 9 Aug 2010 17:19:22 -0400
From:	Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>
To:	djwong@...ibm.com
Cc:	Ted Ts'o <tytso@....edu>, Mingming Cao <cmm@...ibm.com>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@...hat.com>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Keith Mannthey <kmannth@...ibm.com>,
	Mingming Cao <mcao@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3] ext4: Combine barrier requests coming from fsync

On 2010-08-09, at 15:53, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> This patch attempts to coordinate barrier requests being sent in by fsync.  Instead of each fsync call initiating its own barrier, there's now a flag to indicate if (0) no barriers are ongoing, (1) we're delaying a short time to collect other fsync threads, or (2) we're actually in-progress on a barrier.
> 
> So, if someone calls ext4_sync_file and no barriers are in progress, the flag shifts from 0->1 and the thread delays for 500us to see if there are any other threads that are close behind in ext4_sync_file.  After that wait, the state transitions to 2 and the barrier is issued.  Once that's done, the state goes back to 0 and a completion is signalled.

You shouldn't use a fixed delay for the thread.  500us _seems_ reasonable, if you have a single HDD.  If you have an SSD, or an NVRAM-backed array, then 2000 IOPS is a serious limitation.

What is done in the JBD2 code is to scale the commit sleep interval based on the average commit time.  In fact, the ext4_force_commit-> ...->jbd2_journal_force_commit() call will itself be waiting in the jbd2 code to merge journal commits.  It looks like we are duplicating some of this machinery in ext4_sync_file() already.

It seems like a better idea to have a single piece of code to wait to merge the IOs.  For the non-journal ext4 filesystems it should implement the wait for merges explicitly, otherwise it should defer the wait to jbd2.

Cheers, Andreas

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