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Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:12:29 +1100
From:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...nel.dk>
To:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...nel.dk>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...hat.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
Subject: Re: [patch] fs: fix deadlocks in writeback_if_idle

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:01:18AM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 02:26:03PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > 	On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:53:56 +1100
> > Nick Piggin <npiggin@...nel.dk> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 02:10:28PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > Well, for now, the easiest and simplest fix is my patch, I think. The
> > > objection is that we may not write out anything for the specified sb,
> > > but the current implementation provides no such guarantees at all
> > > anyway, so I don't think it's a big issue.
> > 
> > Well yes.  We take something which will fail occasionally and with your
> > patch replace it with something which will fail a bit more often.  Why
> > don't we go all the way and do something which will fail *even more
> > often*.  Namely, just delete the damn function in the hope that the
> > resulting failures will provoke the ext4 crew into doing something sane
> > this time?
> 
> I just need it fixed because the deadlocks are constantly hanging my
> tests and/or switching off lockdep.
> 
>  
> > Guys, this delalloc thing *sucks*.  And here we are just sticking new
> > bandaids on top of the old bandaids.  And the btrfs approach isn't
> > exactly a thing of glory, either.
> > 
> > So...  nope.  I won't be applying Nick's patch.  Please fix this thing
> > properly - you have a whole month!
> 
> Testers have less. It would be better to fix it now and rip it out at
> the start of the next merge window if you're that way inclined :)

Is this going to be fixed in time, or shall we merge my patch for
2.6.37?

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