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Date:	Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:46:56 +0100
From:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
To:	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>
Cc:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Joel Becker <jlbec@...lplan.org>,
	Ted Ts'o <tytso@....edu>, Manish Katiyar <mkatiyar@...il.com>,
	ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] jbd2 : Make jbd2 transaction handle allocation to
 return errors and handle them gracefully.

On Mon 24-01-11 18:06:24, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> >  jbd2_journal_start can always fail e.g. because the journal is aborted.
> > So it really just means no memory failures...
> > 
> >>> The tradeoff is that long-term, the code is more readable (as opposed
> >>> to having people look up what a random "true" or "false" value means).
> >>> But short-term, while it will make the patch smaller, it also makes
> >>> the patch harder audit, since we need to look at all of the places
> >>> where we _haven't_ made a change to make sure those call sites can
> >>> tolerate an error return.
> >> 
> >> 	I think we should start with jbd2_journal_start_can_fail() or
> >> something like it, and change it back to jbd2_journal_start() in the
> >> next window.  It's a silly name, but it catches exactly what you are
> >> worried about.
> > 
> >  Yes, I think this would be nice for auditting (but for that matter
> > current interface with additional argument isn't bad either and we can
> > just do the rename to _nofail in the final patch...).
> 
> The reason I don't like the "true" and "false" arguments is that it isn't
> at all clear which functions have "false" because they cannot fail, and
> which ones just haven't been updated yet.
> 
> In that light, I'd prefer to add _two_ new functions, one that indicates
> the function needs to retry (as it does now), and one that indicates that
> the caller will handle the error.  That way it is clear which functions
> have been investigated, and which ones haven't been looked at yet.  Once
> all of the functions have been changed, we can remove the old
> jbd2_journal_start() function to catch any patches that have not been
> updated to the new functions.
  I agree this would be good for the transition period but once we go
through all the callsites, I'd prefer to do a rename and have just
jbd2_journal_start() be the one which does not retry.

> Maybe jbd2_journal_start_canfail() and jbd2_journal_start_retry()?
  As I said above, I'd like the first one to live only temporarily so
I don't care about the name. The second one is probably better than
_nofail() but I still don't feel it describes well what the function
does...

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
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