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Date:	Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:10:54 -0700
From:	Andrew Morton <>
To:	Dan Magenheimer <>
Cc:	Minchan Kim <>,
	Chris Mason <>,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
	Kurt Hackel <>,,
	Dave Mccracken <>,,, Konrad Wilk <>,,,,
Subject: Re: [PATCH V8 4/8] mm/fs: add hooks to support cleancache

On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Dan Magenheimer <> wrote:

> Hi Minchan --
> > First of all, thanks for resolving conflict with my patch.
> You're welcome!  As I pointed out offlist, yours was the first
> change in MM that caused any semantic changes to the cleancache
> core hooks patch since before 2.6.18.
> > Before I suggested a thing about cleancache_flush_page,
> > cleancache_flush_inode.
> > 
> > what's the meaning of flush's semantic?
> > I thought it means invalidation.
> > AFAIC, how about change flush with invalidate?
> I'm not sure the words "flush" and "invalidate" are defined
> precisely or used consistently everywhere in computer
> science, but I think that "invalidate" is to destroy
> a "pointer" to some data, but not necessarily destroy the
> data itself.   And "flush" means to actually remove
> the data.  So one would "invalidate a mapping" but one
> would "flush a cache".
> Since cleancache_flush_page and cleancache_flush_inode
> semantically remove data from cleancache, I think flush
> is a better name than invalidate.
> Does that make sense?

nope ;)

Kernel code freely uses "flush" to refer to both invalidation and to
writeback, sometimes in confusing ways.  In this case,
cleancache_flush_inode and cleancache_flush_page rather sound like they
might write those things to backing store.  
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