linux-ext4 - Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs: Do not dispatch FITRIM through separate super

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Message-ID: <BANLkTin7afjph7=GO=K+QcBSaOUf7zJqSw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:25:21 +0900
From:	Kyungmin Park <kmpark@...radead.org>
To:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
Cc:	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	Lukas Czerner <lczerner@...hat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Mark Lord <kernel@...savvy.com>,
	James Bottomley <james.bottomley@...e.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@...hat.com>, tytso <tytso@....edu>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	sandeen <sandeen@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs: Do not dispatch FITRIM through separate super_operation

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 01:52:12PM +0900, Kyungmin Park wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com> wrote:
>> > Excerpts from Christoph Hellwig's message of 2010-12-07 04:27:49 -0500:
>> >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:21:35AM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
>> >> > >I really hate to rely on this third party hearsay (from all sides), and
>> >> > >have implement TRIM support in qemu now.  I'll soon install win7 and
>> >> > >will check out the TRIM patters myself.
>> >> >
>> >> > Excellent!
>> >>
>> >> I did a Windows 7 installation under qemu today, and the result is:
>> >
>> > Great, thanks for testing this.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>  - it TRIMs the whole device early during the installation
>> >>  - after that I see a constant stream of small trims during the
>> >>    installation.  It's using lots of non-contiguous ranges in a single
>> >>    TRIM command, with sizes down to 8 sectors (4k) for a single range.
>> >>  - after installation there's is some background-trimming going on
>> >>    even when doing no user interaction with the VM at all.
>>
>> Hi Lukas,
>>
>> Now FITRIM is based on user interaction. So how about to implement the
>> AUTO batched discard at kernel level?
>> Idea is same as windows, make a single thread and iterate the
>> superblocks and call the trim.
>
> Surely this the responsibility of a userspace daemon and a config
> file to decide and implement the background trim policy?

It seems to run as crond. BTW, what's config file? time based or behavior?
my rough idea to run at kernel level.

1. Block I/O aware notification.
2. Explicit filesystem call
3. user space request. (same as current)

Thank you,
Kyungmin Park
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
> --
> Dave Chinner
> david@...morbit.com
>
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