linux-ext4 - Re: [patch 3/5] mm: try to distribute dirty pages fairly across zones

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Message-ID: <20110930085539.GD30857@redhat.com>
Date:	Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:55:39 +0200
From:	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@...hat.com>
To:	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@...el.com>, xfs@....sgi.com,
	linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/5] mm: try to distribute dirty pages fairly across zones

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:35:25AM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi Johannes!
> 
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Johannes Weiner <jweiner@...hat.com> wrote:
> > But there is a flaw in that we have a zoned page allocator which does
> > not care about the global state but rather the state of individual
> > memory zones.  And right now there is nothing that prevents one zone
> > from filling up with dirty pages while other zones are spared, which
> > frequently leads to situations where kswapd, in order to restore the
> > watermark of free pages, does indeed have to write pages from that
> > zone's LRU list.  This can interfere so badly with IO from the flusher
> > threads that major filesystems (btrfs, xfs, ext4) mostly ignore write
> > requests from reclaim already, taking away the VM's only possibility
> > to keep such a zone balanced, aside from hoping the flushers will soon
> > clean pages from that zone.
> 
> The obvious question is: how did you test this? Can you share the results?

Meh, sorry about that, they were in the series introduction the last
time and I forgot to copy them over.

I did single-threaded, linear writing to an USB stick as the effect is
most pronounced with slow backing devices.

[ The write deferring on ext4 because of delalloc is so extreme that I
  could trigger it even with simple linear writers on a mediocre
  rotating disk, though.  I can not access the logfiles right now, but
  the nr_vmscan_writes went practically away here as well and runtime
  was unaffected with the patched kernel. ]

			Test results

15M DMA + 3246M DMA32 + 504M Normal = 3765M memory
40% dirty ratio, 10% background ratio
16G USB thumb drive
10 runs of dd if=/dev/zero of=disk/zeroes bs=32k count=$((10 << 15))

		seconds			nr_vmscan_write
		        (stddev)	       min|     median|        max
xfs
vanilla:	 549.747( 3.492)	     0.000|      0.000|      0.000
patched:	 550.996( 3.802)	     0.000|      0.000|      0.000

fuse-ntfs
vanilla:	1183.094(53.178)	 54349.000|  59341.000|  65163.000
patched:	 558.049(17.914)	     0.000|      0.000|     43.000

btrfs
vanilla:	 573.679(14.015)	156657.000| 460178.000| 606926.000
patched:	 563.365(11.368)	     0.000|      0.000|   1362.000

ext4
vanilla:	 561.197(15.782)	     0.000|2725438.000|4143837.000
patched:	 568.806(17.496)	     0.000|      0.000|      0.000
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