linux-ext4 - Re: bigalloc and max file size

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Message-ID: <4EAEDD56.6000709@coly.li>
Date:	Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:39:34 +0800
From:	Coly Li <i@...y.li>
To:	Ted Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
CC:	Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@...mcloud.com>,
	linux-ext4 development <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alex Zhuravlev <bzzz@...mcloud.com>, Tao Ma <tm@....ma>,
	"hao.bigrat@...il.com" <hao.bigrat@...il.com>
Subject: Re: bigalloc and max file size

On 2011年11月01日 00:22, Ted Ts'o Wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:08:20AM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>> On 2011-10-31, at 4:22 AM, Theodore Tso <tytso@....EDU> wrote:
[snip]
> I'm curious why TaoBao is so interested in changing the extent
> encoding for bigalloc file systems.  Currently we can support up to 1
> EB worth of physical block numbers, and 16TB of logical block numbers.
> Are you concerned about bumping into the 1 EB file system limit?  Or
> the 16 TB file size limit?  Or something else?
> 
In some application, we allocate a big file which occupies most space of a file system, while the file system built on
(expensive) SSD. In such configuration, we want less blocks allocated for inode table and bitmap. If the max extent
length could be much big, there is chance to have much less block groups, which results more blocks for regular file.
Current bigalloc code does well already, but there is still chance to do better. The sys-admin team believe
cluster-based-extent can help Ext4 to consume as less meta data memory as raw disk does, and gain as more available data
blocks as raw disks does, too. This is a small number on one single SSD, but in our cluster environment, this effort can
help to save a recognized amount of capex.

Further more, for HDFS with 128MB data block file, and the file system is formatted with 1MB cluster bigalloc. In worst
case, only one extent block read is needed to access an 128MB data block file. (However, this case is about a chunk size
more than 64K, not compulsory for cluster-based-extent)

With inline-data and cluster-based-extent to bigalloc, we get more closed to the above goal.

P.S. When I finish typing this email, I find Andreas also explain the similar reason in his email, much more simple and
clear :-)
-- 
Coly Li
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