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Message-ID: <4F0CFD2B.7010404@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:08:27 -0600
From:	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...hat.com>
To:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
CC:	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...deen.net>,
	Kamal Mostafa <kamal@...onical.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Surbhi Palande <csurbhi@...il.com>,
	Valerie Aurora <val@...consulting.com>,
	Christopher Chaltain <christopher.chaltain@...onical.com>,
	"Peter M. Petrakis" <peter.petrakis@...onical.com>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@...hat.com>,
	Surbhi Palande <surbhi.palande@...onical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal

On 1/10/12 3:31 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Tue 10-01-12 14:20:23, Eric Sandeen wrote:

<snip>

>> Hrm let me think through this a little more; we actually do:
>>
>> t16) ext4_journal_start()
>>   t17) ext4_journal_start_sb()
>>     t18) handle = ext4_journal_current_handle();
>>     t19) if (!handle) vfs_check_frozen()
>>     t20) ... jbd2_journal_start()
>   Ah, right. I forgot.
> 
>> So actually we *do* block new handles, but let *existing* ones
>> continue (see commits 6b0310fbf087ad6e9e3b8392adca97cd77184084
>> and be4f27d324e8ddd57cc0d4d604fe85ee0425cba9)
>>
>> So your assertion that a new handle is started is incorrect
>> in general, isn't it?  So then does the fix seem necessary?
>> Or, at least, in the fashion below - maybe we need to just make
>> sure all started handles complete before the unlock_updates?
>> Or am I missing something...?
>   Well, the problem with running operations and freezing is more
> fundamental I believe. See my email
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=132585911925796&w=2
> 
> So I believe we'll need some better exclusion mechanism already in VFS.
> 
> 								Honza
> 

Yep, saw it, just wasn't sure if this patchset was still under active consideration.

Thanks,
-Eric

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