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Date:	Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:59:56 +0800
From:	Zheng Liu <>
To:	Andreas Dilger <>
Cc:	Lukas Czerner <>,
	Eric Sandeen <>,
	"" <>,
	"" <>,
	"" <>,
	Zheng Liu <>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] add FALLOC_FL_NO_HIDE_STALE flag in fallocate

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 08:09:02AM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> Looking at these performance numbers again, it would seem better if ext4 _was_ zero filling the whole file and converting the whole thing to initialized extents instead of leaving so many uninitialized extents behind.
> The file size is 256MB, and the disk would have to be doing only 3.5MB/s for linear streaming writes to match the performance that you report, so a modern disk doing 50MB/s should be able to zero the whole file in 5s.
> It seems the threshold for zeroing uninitialized extents is incorrect. EXT4_EXT_ZERO_LEN is only 7 blocks (28kB normally), but typical disks can write 64kB as easily as 4kB, so it would be interesting to change EXT4_EXT_ZERO_LEN to 16 and re-run your test. 
> If that solves this particular test case, it wont necessarily the general case, but is still a useful fix.  If you submit a patch for this, please change this code to compare against 64kB instead of a block count, and also to take s_raid_stride into account if set, like:
>         ext_zero_len = max(EXT4_EXT_ZERO_LEN * 1024 >> inode->i_blkbits,
>                            EXT4_SB(inode->i_sb)->s_es->s_raid_stride);
> This would write up to 64kB, or a full RAID stripe (since it already needs to seek that spindle), whichever is larger.  It isn't perfect, since it should really align the zero-out to the RAID stripe to avoid seeking two spindles, but it is a starting point. 

Hi Andreas,

I set EXT4_EXT_ZERO_LEN to 16 and run the same benchmark again.  the result
is the same as before.

I notice this commit (3977c965) and it set EXT4_EXT_ZERO_LEN to 7.  But
in commit log, it doesn't describe why this value is set to 7.  As you
said, I believe that the disk writes 64K as easily as as 4k in modern
disk.  So maybe we can consider to set it to 16 or RAID stripe. :)

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