linux-ext4 - Re: After unlinking a large file on ext4, the process stalls for a long time

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1407181127440.12453@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Fri, 18 Jul 2014 11:29:34 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Lukáš Czerner <lczerner@...hat.com>
To:	Mason <mpeg.blue@...e.fr>
cc:	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: After unlinking a large file on ext4, the process stalls for a
 long time

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014, Mason wrote:

> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:07:30 +0200
> From: Mason <mpeg.blue@...e.fr>
> To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
> Cc: Lukáš Czerner <lczerner@...hat.com>, Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>,
>     Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
>     linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>
> Subject: Re: After unlinking a large file on ext4,
>     the process stalls for a long time
> 
> Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> 
> > Mason wrote:
> > 
> >> unlink("/mnt/hdd/xxx")                  = 0 <111.479283>
> >>
> >> 0.01user 111.48system 1:51.99elapsed 99%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 772maxresident)k
> >> 0inputs+0outputs (0major+434minor)pagefaults 0swaps
> > 
> > ... and we're CPU bound inside the kernel.
> > 
> > Can you run perf so we can see exactly where we're spending the CPU?
> > You're not using a journal, so I'm pretty sure what you will find is
> > that we're spending all of our time in mb_free_blocks(), when it is
> > updating the internal mballoc buddy bitmaps.
> > 
> > With a journal, this work done by mb_free_blocks() is hidden in the
> > kjournal thread, and happens after the commit is completed, so it
> > won't block other file system operations (other than burning some
> > extra CPU on one of the multiple cores available on a typical x86
> > CPU).
> > 
> > Also, I suspect the CPU overhead is *much* less on an x86 CPU, which
> > has native bit test/set/clear instructions, whereas the MIPS
> > architecture was designed by Prof. Hennessy at Stanford, who was a
> > doctrinaire RISC fanatic, so there would be no bitop instructions.
> > 
> > Even though I'm pretty sure what we'll find, knowing exactly *where*
> > in mb_free_blocks() or the function it calls would be helpful in
> > knowing what we need to optimize.  So if you could try using perf
> > (assuming that the perf is supported MIPS; not sure if it does) that
> > would be really helpful.
> 
> Is perf "better" than oprofile? (For some metric)
> 
> I have enabled:
> 
> CONFIG_PERF_EVENTS=y
> CONFIG_PROFILING=y
> CONFIG_TRACEPOINTS=y
> CONFIG_OPROFILE=y
> CONFIG_HAVE_OPROFILE=y
> CONFIG_KPROBES=y
> CONFIG_KRETPROBES=y
> 
> What command-line do you suggest I run to get the output you expect?
> (I'll try to get it done, but I might have to wait two weeks before
> I can run these tests.)

If perf works on your system you can record data with

perf record -g ./test file <size>

and then report with

perf report --stdio

That should yield some interesting information about where we spend
the most time in kernel.

Thanks!
-Lukas