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Message-ID: <bug-61601-13602-CXlBupSln9@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
Date:	Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:02:49 +0000
From:	bugzilla-daemon@...zilla.kernel.org
To:	linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: [Bug 61601] rootflags=noatime causes kernel panic when booting
 without initrd.

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61601

--- Comment #14 from Jacob Lane <jaclane299@...il.com> ---
damn, i see now. im definitely gonna go after that challenge. thanks


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:24 AM, <bugzilla-daemon@...zilla.kernel.org>
wrote:

> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61601
>
> --- Comment #13 from Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu> ---
> Jacob, there are very good programs to help people learn how to get
> involved
> with kernel development.  See the kernelnewbies.org web site and mailing
> list,
> for example.   But you need to have some amount of basic competence; being
> able
> to use Google well, for example, and doing silly things like making sure
> the
> patches compile before you submit patches for review.
>
> Also, if you have clueless people asking users completely random questions
> that
> are completely useless in terms of fixing the problem, it wastes the user's
> time and causes them to get very frustrated.   So having newbies trying to
> help
> users who are reporting kernel bugs is not a good idea.  If they want to
> help
> users install Linux distributions, that's fine --- so long as you are
> minimally
> competent in doing installation.  Similarly, if you are completely
> incompetent
> in doing kernel development, you should not be offering to help users.
>
> There are ways for newbies to get involved.  The problem is Nick has
> consistently ignored advice of people who have wasted a huge amount of time
> trying to get him on the right path.  Which is why he has gotten banned.
>
> If you are someone who wants to get started, there is the Eudyptula
> Challenge
> (http://eudyptula-challenge.org).   Nick finally got involved with this,
> and
> then violated the very simple rules, which caused him to get ejected from
> the
> Challenge within hours, thus setting a new record for the Eudyuptula
> Challenge.
>  Anyway, this is off topic for the bug.  So please stop discussing this
> here,
> please.
>
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