linux-ext4 - Re: [RFC 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support

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Message-ID: <563BC1FB.60004@kernel.dk>
Date:	Thu, 5 Nov 2015 13:54:19 -0700
From:	Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>
To:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@...hat.com>
Cc:	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@...chiereds.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@...ux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-nvdimm@...1.01.org, x86@...nel.org,
	xfs@....sgi.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support

On 11/05/2015 01:33 AM, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> Des xfs rely on this model for correctness?  If so, I'd say we've got a
>> problem
>
> No, it doesn't. The XFS integrity model doesn't trust the IO layers
> to tell the truth about IO ordering and completion or for it's
> developers to fully understand how IO layer ordering works. :P

That's good, because the storage developers simplified the model so that 
fs developers would be able to get and use it.

> i.e. we wait for full completions of all dependent IO before issuing
> flushes or log writes that use REQ_FLUSH|REQ_FUA semantics to ensure
> the dependent IOs are fully caught by the cache flushes...

... which is what you are supposed to do, that's how it works.

-- 
Jens Axboe

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