linux-ext4 - Re: [PATCH 0/8 v2] Non-blocking AIO

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Message-ID: <f1df9ffe-6803-41b3-3ec0-cd96ae32b995@scylladb.com>
Date:   Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:40:36 +0200
From:   Avi Kivity <avi@...lladb.com>
To:     Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
Cc:     Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@...e.de>, jack@...e.com,
        hch@...radead.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-block@...r.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org, linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8 v2] Non-blocking AIO

On 03/06/2017 10:25 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Sun 05-03-17 16:56:21, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> The goal of the patch series is to return -EAGAIN/-EWOULDBLOCK if
>>> any of these conditions are met. This way userspace can push most
>>> of the write()s to the kernel to the best of its ability to complete
>>> and if it returns -EAGAIN, can defer it to another thread.
>>>
>> Is it not possible to push the iocb to a workqueue?  This will allow
>> existing userspace to work with the new functionality, unchanged. Any
>> userspace implementation would have to do the same thing, so it's not like
>> we're saving anything by pushing it there.
> That is not easy because until IO is fully submitted, you need some parts
> of the context of the process which submits the IO (e.g. memory mappings,
> but possibly also other credentials). So you would need to somehow transfer
> this information to the workqueue.
>


It's at least possible to pass the mm_struct to the workqueue, and I 
imagine other process attributes.  But I appreciate the difficulty.

It would be quite annoying to have to keep a large number of worker 
threads active, just in case aio is not working.  Modern NVMes have 
fairly deep queues, and at the worst case, you'll need one thread for 
each I/O to keep everything busy.