Message-Id: <F7BF6774-18AA-4A57-AF64-D7D125A7E73C@dilger.ca>
Date:   Wed, 14 Jun 2017 20:02:05 -0600
From:   Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>
To:     Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@...il.com>
Cc:     linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-fscrypt@...r.kernel.org, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
        Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@...nel.org>,
        Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext4: forbid encrypting root directory

On Jun 14, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@...il.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 06:00:33PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@...il.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...gle.com>
>>> 
>>> Currently it's possible to encrypt all files and directories on an ext4
>>> filesystem by deleting everything, including lost+found, then setting an
>>> encryption policy on the root directory.  However, this is incompatible
>>> with e2fsck because e2fsck expects to find, create, and/or write to
>>> lost+found and does not have access to any encryption keys.  Especially
>>> problematic is that if e2fsck can't find lost+found, it will create it
>>> without regard for whether the root directory is encrypted.  This is
>>> wrong for obvious reasons, and it causes a later run of e2fsck to
>>> consider the lost+found directory entry to be corrupted.
>>> 
>>> It's not clear it would be useful to support encrypting the root
>>> directory, because in that scenario dm-crypt might as well be used
>>> instead.
>> 
>> The benefit of per-file encryption over dm-crypt is that it isn't an
>> all-or-nothing usage case like dm-crypt (e.g. there could be different
>> users/keys for different subdirectories), and secure file delete (as
>> mentioned earlier) works properly with per-file encryption, and doesn't
>> work at all with dm-crypt.
> 
> Well, encrypting the root directory *is* the all-or-nothing use case --- all
> files and directories on the filesystem would be encrypted with the same key,
> and by design it cannot be overridden for individual files/directories.
> 
> "Secure file delete" would be an advantage if/when it's implemented, though.
> 
>>> But in any case, it's broken currently and must not be allowed; so
>>> start returning an error if userspace tries to set an encryption
>>> policy on the root directory.
>>> 
>>> For now do this in ext4 only, because f2fs and ubifs do not appear to
>>> have the lost+found requirement.  We could move it into
>>> fscrypt_ioctl_set_policy() later if desired, though.
>> 
>> What about a special case to handle an unencrypted lost+found inode?
>> 
>> There was also a patch series a while ago to explicitly add lost+found
>> into the superblock so that it could be found even if the root directory
>> was corrupted, and to allow flexibility in whether it is always shown in
>> the root directory or not (e.g. allowing ".lost+found" or similar).
> 
> It could be done if the lost+found inode was not linked to from any directory
> and instead had its inode number stored in the superblock so that e2fsck could
> still find it.  However, if e2fsck put files in a lost+found directory that
> doesn't exist in the filesystem directory structure, how would users retrieve
> those files?  Would users be required to run a special e2fsprogs command to
> list/read/delete the files in lost+found?

I was thinking that readdir on the root inode could insert the "lost+found"
or ".lost+found" entry dynamically, or (a bit less pleasant) is to add a
special case that this entry is just never encrypted (could compare the
inode number to the one stored in the superblock, instead of comparing names)?

Cheers, Andreas

>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * Encrypting the root directory is not allowed because e2fsck expects
>>> +	 * lost+found to exist and be unencrypted, and encrypting the root
>>> +	 * directory would imply encrypting the lost+found directory as well as
>>> +	 * the filename "lost+found" itself.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	if (inode->i_ino == EXT4_ROOT_INO)
>>> +		return -EBUSY;
>> 
>> Why -EBUSY and not -EPERM?
>> 
> 
> No strong reason; I had in mind that EBUSY is returned when running a command
> like 'rmdir /mnt'.  Probably EPERM would be better.
> 
> Eric


Cheers, Andreas






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