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Date:   Wed, 4 Sep 2019 07:25:19 -0700
From:   Deepa Dinamani <>
To:     "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <>
Cc:     Arnd Bergmann <>, Qian Cai <>,
        Jeff Layton <>,
        Alexander Viro <>,
        Linux FS-devel Mailing List <>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
        Ext4 Developers List <>,
        Andreas Dilger <>
Subject: Re: "beyond 2038" warnings from loopback mount is noisy

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 5:58 AM, Theodore Y. Ts'o <> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 09:50:09PM -0700, Deepa Dinamani wrote:
>> If we don't care to warn about the timestamps that are clamped in
>> memory, maybe we could just warn when they are being written out.
>> Would something like this be more acceptable? I would also remove the
>> warning in ext4.h. I think we don't have to check if the inode is 128
>> bytes here (Please correct me if I am wrong). If this looks ok, I can
>> post this.
> That's better, but it's going to be misleading in many cases.  The
> inode's extra size field is 16 or larger, there will be enough space
> for the timestamps, so talking about "timestamps on this inode beyond
> 2038" when ext4 is unable to expand it from say, 24 to 32, won't be
> true.  Certain certain features won't be available, yes --- such as
> project-id-based quotas, since there won't be room to store the
> project ID.  However, it's not going to impact the ability to store
> timestamps beyond 2038.  The i_extra_isize field is not just about
> timestamps!

I understand that i_extra_isize is not just about timestamps. It’s
evident from EXT4_FITS_IN_INODE(). I think we can check for
EXT4_FITS_IN_INODE() here if that will consistently eliminates false

But, I hear you. You think this warning is unnecessary. I think there
are many file systems and I don’t think anybody would knows in’s and
outs of each one. I think if I’m mounting an ext4 fs and it has mixed
sizes of inodes, I think I would at least expect a dmesg(with a hint
on how to fix it) considering that this filesystem is restricted in
more ways than just time. Is this the purpose of the warning you
already have?:

        if (error && (mnt_count != le16_to_cpu(sbi->s_es->s_mnt_count))) {
               ext4_warning(inode->i_sb, "Unable to expand inode %lu.
Delete some EAs or run e2fsck.",

Maybe there should be a warning, but it has nothing to do with just
time. Do we already have this?


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