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Message-ID: <CAAXuY3r7Eu+o-td8MRvexGYmONPgd8FvHr+7mF84Q4ni1G3URg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 17 Oct 2019 16:07:36 -0700
From:   Iurii Zaikin <yzaikin@...gle.com>
To:     Shuah Khan <skhan@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:     "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
        Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@...gle.com>,
        "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" 
        <linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org>, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org,
        adilger.kernel@...ger.ca,
        KUnit Development <kunit-dev@...glegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH linux-kselftest/test v2] ext4: add kunit test for decoding
 extended timestamps

> Having the ability to take test data doesn't make it non-deterministic
> though. It just means that if user wants to test with a different set
> of data, there is no need to recompile the test. This could be helpful
> to test cases the test write didn't think about.
>
Again, unit tests are not meant to be babysat. They are intended to become
a part of the codebase and be run against every proposed change to ensure
the change doesn't break anything.
The whole process is supposed to be fully automated.
Imagine a KUnit test run for all tests that gets kicked off as soon as a patch
shows up in Patchwork and the maintainers getting the test run results.
If you can think of a test that the change author didn't for a new corner case,
then you as the maintainer ask the change author to add such test.
Or if some corner case comes up as a result of a bug then the new case is
submitted with the fix.
This is how unit testing is deployed in the larger software world. In the most
enlightened places a change will not be accepted unless it's accompanied by
the unit tests that offer good coverage for the possible inputs and code paths.
A change that breaks existing tests is either incorrect and has to be fixed or
the existing tests need to be updated for the behavior change.

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