linux-ext4 - Re: [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] long live LFSMMBPF

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Date:   Fri, 06 Mar 2020 14:56:28 -0500
From:   "Chris Mason" <clm@...com>
To:     James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
CC:     Josef Bacik <josef@...icpanda.com>,
        lsf-pc <lsf-pc@...ts.linuxfoundation.org>,
        Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        <linux-mm@...ck.org>, <linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org>,
        Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>,
        <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
        <linux-block@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] long live LFSMMBPF

On 6 Mar 2020, at 14:41, James Bottomley wrote:

> On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 14:27 -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
>> On 6 Mar 2020, at 9:35, Josef Bacik wrote:
> [...]
>>> 4) Planning becomes much simpler.  I've organized miniconf's at
>>> plumbers before, it is far simpler than LSFMMBPF.  You only have
>>> to worry about one thing, is this presentation useful.  I no longer
>>> have to worry about am I inviting the right people, do we have
>>> enough money to cover the space.  Is there enough space for
>>> everybody?  Etc.
>>
>> We’ve talked about working closely with KS, Plumbers and the
>> Linuxfoundation to make a big picture map of the content and
>> frequency  for these confs.
>
> And, lest anyone think we all operate in isolation, we do get together
> periodically to discuss venues, selection and combination.  The last
> big in-person meeting on this topic was at Plumbers in Vancouver in
> 2019, where we had Plumbers, KS/MS, LSF/MM and the LF conference 
> people
> all represented.

Yeah, there’s a lot of cross-over between all the PCs, so we have lots 
of chances to talk it through.

>
>>   I’m sure Angela is having a busy few weeks, but lets work with 
>> her
>> to schedule this and talk it through.  OSS is a good fit  in terms of
>> being flexible enough to fit us in, hopefully we can make  that work.
>
> And, for everyone who gave us feedback in the Plumbers surveys that 
> co-
> locating with a big conference is *not* what you want because of
> various problems like hallway track disruptions due to other 
> conference
> traffic and simply the difficulty of finding people, the current model
> under consideration is one conference organization (the LF) but two
> separate venues, sort of like OpenStack used to do for their big
> conference and design summit to minimize disruption and increase
> developer focus.
>

Agreed, but I do like the idea of doing the plenary in the bigger 
conference sessions.

-chris